on my walk home from school just now and considering the sonic outlaws video watched last week. . . okay i have to start from some personal perspectives that may be pretty far off, but i think it will get me somewhere? maybe not but i guess i need to just think aloud for awhile.
i first heard negativland probably in 1991 or 1992, probably listening to the local college radio station. . . i was lucky enough to have older siblings that were radio djs in college, turning me onto things unexpected on the airwaves and at home. negativland was one of those things i didn't know quite what to make of, but i knew there was something cool about it. it didn't strike me sonically as something i wanted to listen to again really, but it had that air of bands at the time that were political in some sense. but then i probably thought that any band then using found sounds of people speaking had similar purposes. like consolidated. (is that band still around?)
but now to consider their issues of copyright, it does seem silly that they were attacked for their use of U2's "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For." especially now considering this issue, i don't think anyone would blink an eye. or maybe?
I suppose if it were me i would just like to be asked permission. Personally, I would think it was great if someone considered my work to have affected someone enough that they wanted to make a comment with it, even if it were to be in a negative tone. I can think of situations that i have been in when playing music when my sound has been manipulated by others. i was just in new york over the break and my friend byron and i did one of the things that we often do together- he records me doing my stuff and then uses it for his own purposes. i don't mind at all, but i also know and respect what he's going to do with it. but then the first time i tried to play music with an ex-boyfriend of mine, i played some stuff that he recorded, then he immediately manipulated it into something else. i remember crying. . .and well, that was i think just the first of many times we tried to play music and it usually ended with me crying. possibly because i didn't like what he did, and maybe because i just wasn't expecting it.
I can think of a few situations i have been in when playing music. i was in this band called for a very long time, and this guy offered to record us. after spending some time recording an album's worth of stuff, he gave us a copy of the recording- which was a completely remixed crazy version of our music. i remember vaguely that he tried to sell it to us in this way. . something about a feature about him that was going to be in AP magazine and he was going to push the music. basically, he needed some material to present and used ours to present his own ideas. and really, he did a fantastic recording job and some of the things he did were indeed amazing. . but it wasn't our music. and the whole thing was under false pretenses. later we even let half of it be released as a split with another band he recorded. we ended up being fine with it, but it would have been nice to be asked.
so as with every situation. . it certainly depends on the specifics. i'm typically not a person who appropriates other people's work. yes i've used found things, but they were designs that were sold to be used (commercial decals) and sounds that are meant to be used as well- bbc sound effects. i'd rather just make my own stuff personally. if someone takes my stuff and alters it without asking me? well if its good and well done i'll give them props. if it sucks, i'll be pissed off.
i first heard negativland probably in 1991 or 1992, probably listening to the local college radio station. . . i was lucky enough to have older siblings that were radio djs in college, turning me onto things unexpected on the airwaves and at home. negativland was one of those things i didn't know quite what to make of, but i knew there was something cool about it. it didn't strike me sonically as something i wanted to listen to again really, but it had that air of bands at the time that were political in some sense. but then i probably thought that any band then using found sounds of people speaking had similar purposes. like consolidated. (is that band still around?)
but now to consider their issues of copyright, it does seem silly that they were attacked for their use of U2's "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For." especially now considering this issue, i don't think anyone would blink an eye. or maybe?
I suppose if it were me i would just like to be asked permission. Personally, I would think it was great if someone considered my work to have affected someone enough that they wanted to make a comment with it, even if it were to be in a negative tone. I can think of situations that i have been in when playing music when my sound has been manipulated by others. i was just in new york over the break and my friend byron and i did one of the things that we often do together- he records me doing my stuff and then uses it for his own purposes. i don't mind at all, but i also know and respect what he's going to do with it. but then the first time i tried to play music with an ex-boyfriend of mine, i played some stuff that he recorded, then he immediately manipulated it into something else. i remember crying. . .and well, that was i think just the first of many times we tried to play music and it usually ended with me crying. possibly because i didn't like what he did, and maybe because i just wasn't expecting it.
I can think of a few situations i have been in when playing music. i was in this band called for a very long time, and this guy offered to record us. after spending some time recording an album's worth of stuff, he gave us a copy of the recording- which was a completely remixed crazy version of our music. i remember vaguely that he tried to sell it to us in this way. . something about a feature about him that was going to be in AP magazine and he was going to push the music. basically, he needed some material to present and used ours to present his own ideas. and really, he did a fantastic recording job and some of the things he did were indeed amazing. . but it wasn't our music. and the whole thing was under false pretenses. later we even let half of it be released as a split with another band he recorded. we ended up being fine with it, but it would have been nice to be asked.
so as with every situation. . it certainly depends on the specifics. i'm typically not a person who appropriates other people's work. yes i've used found things, but they were designs that were sold to be used (commercial decals) and sounds that are meant to be used as well- bbc sound effects. i'd rather just make my own stuff personally. if someone takes my stuff and alters it without asking me? well if its good and well done i'll give them props. if it sucks, i'll be pissed off.



